Gary65

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 2:27:20 AM
I think Solar homes is the most logical way to go. Wind Farms cause big problems for bats and the pollution their concrete bases will cause down the road etc.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 11:27:12 PM
gasokie from OK...
You have posted similar sentiments on other alternative energy threads, and frankly you need to take some responsibility for your negativity if you are not posting for points!
It is a no-brainer to Google PSO or OGE to determine if the Wind energy project proposed would be to your benefit. If the project is not in your state, then Google that state's utility and do the Math yourself to determine if it is cost beneficial. Then you will have substantive information...good or bad...to bring back to the respective thread.
Don't expect to be spoon-fed all the information, most news sources expect you to do some of the work too.
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ENORMS

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 6:46:03 PM
The transmission lines from wind farms are whats lagging.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:09:45 AM
ifallsguy has the right idea and the right info. Thank you! If you have a windy home site, the Honeywell system may be the way to go. Much more should be done right at home, office, and business sites to eliminate the need for additional new and expensive transmission lines and all the energy lose that is incurred. Go solar, wind, geothermal, and fuel cell. It's the future.
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Night Owl

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 9:51:21 PM
Good news. We need to be using more alternative sources of energy. OPEC and the greedy oil speculators are already too rich.
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eversoQ

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:49:00 PM
Good to hear we're catching up. Sad to hear that as advanced as our country is, we are still lagging at the pace of a 3rd world country.
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:04:46 PM
Wind power is a phony savings issue. The public deserves facts as to cost and benefits.
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orestroker

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:23:17 PM
We will never know the real cost until it can stand on its own cost to produce and market.
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regasaz

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:20:44 PM
If this was a great idea they wouldn't be worried about the "govenrment-subsidized power providers. Why are we subsidizing them in the first place?
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ops3

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:19:35 PM
Did you notice that wind power in the US only took off when that giant corporation General Electric got into the business and developed the sizable segment of the industry; with grants, stimulus, tax breaks etc.; money talks; money makes money!!!
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PDQBlues

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:58:12 PM
Good to know about the growth in US alternative energy.
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LanguageMan1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:56:42 PM
I know US wind power lags and is growing, and we'll still not do enough with it, or for that matter with tidal, hydrogen, nuclear, natural gas, methane, etc. Not even with drilling for more oil here at home, which we still need to do.
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CPGas1815

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:53:43 PM
Much more needs to be done to harness the many forces of nature before we can even begin to realize an energy independence. Every year, BILLIONS of our dollars are being lost to the Global Oil Empire of producers, refiners, distributors, traders, speculators, and local gas station. Our elected leaders in Congress has done nothing to ease or pain. Rather, the largesses doled out by the corrupt and contemptable oil industry to those who have the sworn obligation to legislate in the best interests of their constitiuents are instead only serving the special interests of those that stuffed their pockets with millions of ill begotten gains.
"Big Oil" is waging a war against gasoline consumers who have no other choice but to pay the piper. These economic terrorists are hell bent on stealing every penny from our already near empty pockets.
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TAT36

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:46:41 PM
A letter to the editor in our local paper this morning warned about the evils of wind power on the sea shore. It seems it will change the beaches so sea life will not be able to survive as we know it. So even if it would help our dependency on (foreign) oil it would be bad as far as some people are concerned.
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badbonita

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:23:14 PM
There are so many places that wind turbines - especially smaller ones - can be utilized. The most amusing one I recently saw were vertical ones on top of some parking lot lights at a mall.
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Cruiser340

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:21:32 PM
are they going to start putting wind generators on cars? Produce your own power by driving down the road.
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SpruceGuse2

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:16:53 PM
Now make it feezable for cars...........
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Patch44

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:15:47 PM
Id rather see some slow growth than no growth at all.
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rimpyCA

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:12:38 PM
really
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computernut2008

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:08:35 PM
Who wants this crap
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skybiker

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:29:59 PM
Gold bucket for Greenies this is.....We will pay...
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cpl11787

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:19:05 PM
I see some of those all the time.
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nigelb

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:14:24 PM
We need to make this a priority before China beats us in yet another industry. Europe also has a lead on wind turbine usage and the UK has the most off shore wind turbines in the world.
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DellDude2

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:11:18 PM
Great one, pdcarver! Just what I was thinking.
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jcurley

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:05:04 PM
Forget what China is doing. This is not a race. We need to do what is right for our country.
The wind may not be blowing around your house right now, but there are other places where it is. Also, there are places where the wind is blowing basically non-stop.
Build them here, install them here, now! (Trade mark!) (My version of the drill here, drill now chant.)
Ditto for Solar.
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pulpwood

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:01:15 PM
They Dutch have been using the free power for a long time!
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hybridaholic

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:00:31 PM
Wind farms (100+ turbines) are going up all over the place in Wisconsin
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Dennisjk

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:59:40 PM
The wind is fine...... as long as it's blowing.
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Tamas2evil

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:59:08 PM
The made a man take is wind mill down... that is why it is lagging the governments are a pain, whether it is local, state or federal.
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AnObserver

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:58:13 PM
I thought that T Boone Pickens had a greay ideas to build wind farms on the great plains - it still may happen but not as soon as it could have
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bobmcl2006

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:55:52 PM
The front page of the April Popular Science pictures the next gen wind turbine with now a direct drive generator. GE is getting into the race for offshore units.
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LoneGuy

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:45:53 PM
I wonder how much bang for our buck we get from wind. I think allowing the oil companies to explore on our coastal shelves without giving them subsidies will get us a lot more energy and a close less damage to the ecology than what China and Russia will do on our coastal areas.
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spunky4443

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:42:38 PM
Would be nice if there was more.
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TBONE3

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:40:44 PM
Harness some of the wind in Congress and we will not need much from Mother Nature.
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PADI

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:35:53 PM
I believe wind and solar power are the way of the future.
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Road-Runner

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:32:06 PM
That's nice. A plague upon the landscape. Most likely it will be the taxpayers who get to clear and clean up the mess after these cement and steel towers have been FULLY DEPRECIATED FOR TAXES by the investors. Still haven't heard anything at all from politicians about forcing the investors to foot the bill, and probably we never will.
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Vette1967

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Albany
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:31:44 PM
We need to go forward with more wind and solar power.
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:28:05 PM
It's a viable component of our energy equation but, like all others, we can't just assume it's the right answer in every situation.
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:27:53 PM
Wind and solar power are the best.
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pdcarver

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:26:51 PM
more government interference needed please.
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jd2009

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:23:28 PM
There's alot of wind in Washington DC
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thriftymeCA

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:19:52 PM
It's not just for government in Washington, but environmentalists delaying development.
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Hunter114

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:15:30 PM
This lag in wind power development is due largely in part to Senators and congressmen in blue states who don't want it in their districts.
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CaliberMan71

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:14:32 PM
Start making solar and wind more available and affordable to the American consumers.
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Metro Man

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Flint
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:11:46 PM
Use Pelosi, she generates wind plus she is full of hot air.
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Greg6901

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:09:39 PM
Micro-power stations would be a good idea.
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tco0102

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Charleston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:08:50 PM
Its free and its clean..
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BEngr

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:06:28 PM
The U.S. is making progress but we need to continue promoting more use windmills. I have alway been fascinated by windmills and can remember when almost every farmhouse had one. They are awesome looking when you can see the blades turning on the horizon. I haven't been up close enough to hear if the blades made a noise, but anyone living next to an airport or an Interstate highway would gladly trade for the noise of a windmill.
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Dipstick1

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Amarillo
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 1:06:07 PM
Plenty of wind. Especially in Washington.
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PithyOpiner

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 12:50:57 PM
He's right. We all need a little one in our backyards or on our houses.
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