honda0105

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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2010 6:08:09 AM
lets hope this gets done faster than some of the other clean ups.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2010 6:05:19 AM
saturn93: that's like asking the captain, who ran another vessel aground exactly where the Exxon Valdez did, to pay up for that disaster. Where is he going to get the money for it? That's why companies as a whole carry liability insurance.
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250FORD

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 3:45:30 PM
mvosevicH Exactly, but how accountable will the companies be that abandoned them?
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 8:56:26 AM
OK!
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 5:57:51 AM
How fast will they be in stopping this well from leaking?
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mvosevich

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 1:38:12 AM
Apparently there are thousands of abandoned wells all over the globe. Its a disaster waiting to happen.
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Saturn93

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 1:37:29 AM
How about the responsibility of the crew who steered the barge into the well?
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comprof

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Houston
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 1:36:25 AM
Vette1967: Good observation.
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runout9

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 1:31:13 AM
It's hitting the fan!
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grouch311

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 1:30:30 AM
is tug pilot gonna lose his license?
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jadeusa

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 1:17:39 AM
These leaks/spills just keep on coming.
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 1:00:46 AM
so do we know yet if this CYDECO Company, mentioned in this article, is BP owned through a series of holding companies ?
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Vette1967

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Albany
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 12:44:08 AM
The darn thing sticking out of the water was an accident waiting to happen. Where are the guardrails, signs and lighting?
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gj35

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 12:05:25 AM
It's really scary what's happening to our waters and the food we depend on in them.
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eddmac

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Washington
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 12:04:47 AM
Lets do this logically one step at time leaving out the extremes from left or right
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AKmailman

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Alaska
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:56:48 PM
we don't need more rules, just more people that can safely navigate a barge
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Jarod13

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:55:21 PM
I hope that Cydeco has some deep pockets, because this could prove expensive to clean up as well. As if Louisiana needs any more oil on their shores...
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:54:09 PM
I don't know about this one... The folks who hit the darn thing should be paying. Anyone navigating the waters should have been paying attention to the bouys and watching the depth finder. Bad decision on the Tug boat operator. I'd pull his license!
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:53:57 PM
jrsva...You have sadly been made one of those naive enough to believe the propaganda. There is more than 2000 years worth of oil in the US, just in the Dakotas and Alaska alone. For one, 2000 years doesnt sound "finite" and in Michigan they just discovered that oil is not a fossil fuel. It is renewing in several closed and capped wells there. For two, watch the news or read up on information before making a fool of yourself through your comments in the future.
[Edited by: RENEGADEGAS at 7/31/2010 11:54:39 PM EST]
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kbierley

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:48:37 PM
Here we go again...
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arinkrat17

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:46:38 PM
not good this comp will go belly up better be able to pay for the clean up
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:45:52 PM
I'm glad the last owner of the well is still around to pay for clean up.
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DosEquis26

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:43:17 PM
not big news.
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dinahf

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:42:41 PM
Sounds like more fun in the sun.....more greasy oil to go around ruining everything.....
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serrog

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Nova Scotia
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:40:22 PM
BP mania!
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Ray_10589

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New York
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:37:16 PM
We need safety rules followed!!
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PetroPedro

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:33:11 PM
jeeeeezzzzzzz
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:31:41 PM
Oh give it a break RG. Jeez. Oil is a finite resource and recoverable resources will be used up in a finite time. We need alternative, renewable, non-polluting energy sources.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:26:40 PM
This is not BP. This is the earth not capable of holding its oil in. Yet we are told repeatedly, we are nearly out of oil!! We must find alternatives! Really?!! NOT!!! Wise up folks, you have been led down the propaganda trail!
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DancingDee

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Gary
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:24:26 PM
I agree with jay4 and HEBster!
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imadriver

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:21:07 PM
According to the article,
"The towboat captain told investigators the well was not lit as required."
So, before we go off in all directions (again), let's allow the proper agencies to do their due diligence investigating everything, including the towboat captain's claim.
IF indeed, it can be verified that the well was not properly lit, then, of course, penalize the oil company. However, is it beyond the realm of probability that perhaps the driver made a mistake and is responsible for the accident?
Have any of you ever made an admittedly stupid move while driving, leading to an accident, and were tempted to create a cover story to hide your liability?
I'm not saying that the towboat captain in this case did such a thing. I'm just urging everyone to allow things to take their course. This is why we have investigations.
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camel1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:13:53 PM
Let's hope more accidents like this are not out there waiting to happen. Unfortunately they most likely are as these abandoned wells get older and deteriorate.
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1Boog

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Lincoln
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:13:09 PM
Was this story provided to MSNBC by the BP PR Department to take some of the heat off of them? This is more evidence of lax safety in the Oil Industry.
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jay4

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:10:54 PM
Continued evidence of cutting oorners?
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:06:58 PM
Probably been goin' on for awhile-just now highlighted...
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Johnnyrebell12

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:06:28 PM
Here we go again we haven't even cleaned up the first one
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Toppers

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:03:33 PM
Comin' N 2 focus...
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my3sons

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New York
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 11:02:11 PM
bigger fines will make companies do the right thing
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MikLamb

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:56:47 PM
Did these things happen all the time and we just didn't hear about them? Or have oil companies just become really really negligent recently?
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PHILBEARGA

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:53:12 PM
BAD NEWS AGAIN (OIL LEAK).
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saleboss

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:42:48 PM
And you wonder why we should have stricter contol of operations and abandonment!
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TopGunn

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:42:40 PM
Appears no one cares in advance of any oil leak. How sad!
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adr47

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Saskatchewan
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:39:06 PM
Something about "Chickens coming home to roost"
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JuliusRex

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:32:24 PM
What would happen if the company that last owned the well no longer existed? Already companies are transferring ownership of these types of capital to royalty trusts and such. What will happen to these wells 50 years from now?
For example:
The trust owned 10 wells. They were drained, and the profits were distributed to the shareholders through dividends. What funds were left were used to close down production, and pay some lawyers to wind down the trust. If one or more of these wells leak 10 years later, who pays? The trust is penniless -- a few scraps of paper in some lawyers office. The shareholders and management are gone.
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jb107

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:31:26 PM
The barge did the damage, why arn't they responsible?
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Kamakani

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:31:11 PM
enough already!
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toadNY

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:27:07 PM
What about the tug boat skipper? Was the well marked?
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nemoFL

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:20:07 PM
probably bp then
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Romey08

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:17:05 PM
spills showing up everywhere
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mmene

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:16:33 PM
they will cap this quickly since it is in shallow water.
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