honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2012 12:00:43 AM
time will show the true cost.
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drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 9:59:37 AM
BumpinButch is another example of science denialism.
AND THE WITCH HUNTS CONTINUE:
Regulation of oil and gas activity should remain squarely under individual state supervision. There is no reason the Feds should be involved in issues the states have already stringently set. All the information is available at the site www.fracfocus.org.
As more and more SCIENTIFIC studies are added to a growing list of studies showing the safety of hydraulic fracturing, the science denial crowd will overlook the science and continue to promote fear. Yelling "the water's on fire etc.".
They'll continue to chant the thoroughly debunked claims of Josh Fox "Gasland" propaganda.
No disclosure of fracturing fluid?? WRONG again... Just take at look around the site www.fracfocus.org, it's ALL right there for the world to see.
And the latest from the purveyors of fear? Insurance!!! Aha, this will be the nail in the trackers coffin! Oh wait...."Fracking-related losses have never been a covered loss under personal or commercial lines policies." - Nationwide Insurance Co.
So now it's water use eh? As each aspect of the witch hunt against oil and gas production is knocked down by science these yahoos will come up with something else out of the blue. Show me one state where oil and gas comapanies use more than a tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the total water usage. While your at it show me a state that doesn't allow golf courses to use hundreds of times more water than drilling. You cannot, case closed.
You see, there is a huge amount of deceiving information spouted out to the public about hydraulic fracturing, a decades-old technology. Those who spread this misinformation are mostly preying on the public's fears, with an ultimate goal of forcing state governments to succumb to that fear and prevent or even ban hydraulic fracturing. We need to make sure that the discussion is productive, and that any rules are legitimately conceived. Fact must be sEPArated from fiction.
The most common claim talking point is that hydraulic fracturing contaminates ground water. This is baseless. Have you ever noticed that the critics who make that claim never provide concrete evidence? The reason for their omission? It is obvious why. After being used more than 1.2 million times there have been no confirmed cases of hydraulic fracturing contaminating water. None. Never. Ever.
As EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in April of 2012, "In no case have we made a definitive determination that the fracking process has caused chemicals to enter groundwater."
The three "smoking gun" cases that the anti-shale zealots were sinking their teeth into have proven false or based on very poor science. See Pavillion WY, Dimoch, PA, and Parker County, TX.
The latest fear mongering is "climate change" thru methane emission from hydraulic fracturing. Once again SCIENTIFIC investigation has shown the EPA using numbers that are overblown by 50%.
Oh and the "evil Halliburton Loophole" talking point! LOL, what a joke. This is the errant claim born out of the yellow journalism of "gasland", a proven fraudulent film by Josh Fox, that hydraulic fracturing is "exempt" from the Safe Drinking Water Act, thanks to an energy bill passed by Congress in 2005. The truth??? SDWA has been the law of the land for nearly 40 years, and at no point has it ever covered hydraulic fracturing. Why??? States already tightly and effectively regulate the process.
How can an industry be exempt from something that never covered you in the first place? But you hear this falsehood talking point most every time the subject comes up.
It is important to rely on facts and the science, not fear-mongering talking points. The shale gas and oil boom is the result of U.S. business innovation and risk-taking. If we let the fear of undocumented pollution kill this boom, we will deserve our fate as a second-class industrial power.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2012 9:13:03 AM
GatorGuy: NIMBY?
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GatorGuy

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 10:42:40 AM
Ewww, fracking in Michigan? OK out in big sky country, but 'not in my backyard'.
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nskmda

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 10:40:56 AM
so what? how much are the prices gonna drop? can't believe they will drop at all.
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 10:01:18 AM
Where is Michigan in the Fracking revolution that has transformed gas and oil production in the United States? More than $400 million has been spent in Michigan in the past three years to explore the use of new Fracking technology.
Fracking oil well has been going on for the last thirty years, but the last several year has created much concern for drinking water..
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BumpinButch

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:55:13 AM
New Fracking technology begets NEW PROBLEMS. Watch and see...Murphy's Law!
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Mariuxus

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:52:16 AM
Wow....that fracking thing ...again
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peanutsMN

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:51:38 AM
Because of fracking North Dakota has become a zoo and no one wants to go there.
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sailfreeMI

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:51:20 AM
Ok, be careful.
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JimVP

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:50:45 AM
Continuation of environment impact should be continued.
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bodu

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:48:30 AM
What is the risk? Ask Calgary.
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:48:04 AM
keep on drilling
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bart_reed

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:47:53 AM
What is the risk?
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GasholeMI

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:47:18 AM
Hard for the average person to determine the pros and cons due to the politics of fracking.
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buzzieNY

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:46:44 AM
There seems to be more oil in the US than ever before.
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techque

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:45:56 AM
proceed but cautiously and safely.
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Mota

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:45:16 AM
What the frack?
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mikerroy

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:44:07 AM
Not good for people living in the area.
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FedupwithGreed

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:44:06 AM
Frack that.
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Hugo40

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:43:37 AM
More fracking news.
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msgt_usa

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:42:19 AM
20 -- not worth commenting on
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sivart

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:42:11 AM
Frack on!
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lll4386

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:41:51 AM
OK
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twiper1

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:41:34 AM
see what happens
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drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:41:06 AM
Michigan needs this kind of economic diversity.
Texas realized it in the '70's and diversified from a mostly one industry based economy (oil).
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ou812again

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:40:57 AM
OK
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:40:52 AM
Oh my!!!
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IMLURCH

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:40:34 AM
OK
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doncNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:39:53 AM
There seems to be more oil in the US than ever before.
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sdiddydaddy

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:38:43 AM
I guess those of us in Michigan get to experience fracking up close and personal now.
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Bullseye520

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:38:06 AM
Interesting!
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Digger52

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:36:52 AM
ok
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Dale Jr.

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:36:47 AM
Ok
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RetFireLT

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:36:33 AM
Ok.
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EXTREMESNOW

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Medford
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:36:23 AM
ok
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LocalSpyGuy

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:35:56 AM
rnlunder is right!
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DeeLA

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:35:15 AM
Okay.
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H2OBurner

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Utah
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:34:48 AM
k
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D4444J

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:34:00 AM
Frack on Michigan
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rnlunder

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Waco
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:33:00 AM
I agree with Legend1500. There is way to much BS flying around about Fracking,....mostly lies from both sides who have their own agendas.
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Grinch09

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:31:33 AM
Rumble
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:31:31 AM
Leaning...good
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Ram4Sam

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:31:16 AM
Go Michigan!!!
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dlzastera

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:29:38 AM
Keep the drinking water clean.
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atdinut

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California
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:29:16 AM
Earth quakes in Michigan?????
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Legend1500

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Midland Odessa
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:29:13 AM
I tired of the fracking subject.
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scrossi

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:28:58 AM
So true freedomsailor.
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studebaker1940

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:28:49 AM
Where are the liberal tree huggers when you need them. Probably driving their soccer mom SUV's
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AcuraTSX

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:28:44 AM
ok
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