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Driving by the Numbers

NY Times -- Collecting real-time data from cars could save lives....

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Submitted Mar 12, 2010 By: Cakes77

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kelsielee Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,271 Points:630,890 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:16:24 PM Ignore kelsielee Report Abuse The paranoia of many othe posters is as interesting as the article itself.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:2,263 Points:657,845 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:54:18 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse likely to tack on too much extra to the sticker price, and would be part of the 'standard' model. no thanks.
eddmac Champion Author Washington Posts:4,330 Points:958,830 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:24:55 PM Ignore eddmac Report Abuse I like all the data, but I don't like paying for it.
TheDix All-Star Author Ontario Posts:599 Points:110,115 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 5:24:05 PM Ignore TheDix Report Abuse Get rid of the computers.Lower the prices.
Jeeputtputt All-Star Author Cincinnati Posts:530 Points:145,470 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 5:15:32 PM Ignore Jeeputtputt Report Abuse AND The computer reading the malfunctioning computer malfunctions snd so on & so on! About those red light cameras, could you not change the position of the car and/or the color of the light........ very profitable------But they wouldn't do that, RIGHT-------WRONG!!!
caddilac Champion Author Ontario Posts:10,425 Points:1,124,430 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:53:42 PM Ignore caddilac Report Abuse aldog365, I agree with you completely. Get rid of a computer controlling the gas peddle and just hook the gas pedal direct by linkage to the throttle body. They have taken away our control and given it to a computer that can be disrupted by stray electrical fields.
Rick52 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,260 Points:280,105 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:36:15 PM Ignore Rick52 Report Abuse Fix the soft ware and mechanical parts...And call it a day !!!! No more added costs needed to the price of a car.....
BEngr Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,527 Points:575,705 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:32:37 PM Ignore BEngr Report Abuse I can see the value of a black box to record data while the vehicle is running but the use of this data should be restricted to the car manufactures, with exception that the government can examine it once they are notified of problems.
Bernz Sophomore Author Albuquerque Posts:235 Points:386,645 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:27:12 PM Ignore Bernz Report Abuse I bet the Obama regime fully supports this.
threewheeler Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,191 Points:249,975 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:24:14 PM Ignore threewheeler Report Abuse Big brother is watching you.
Bert2010 Sophomore Author Columbus Posts:232 Points:83,730 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:22:38 PM Ignore Bert2010 Report Abuse I agree with Rajah too.
nyyankees2 All-Star Author Omaha Posts:769 Points:147,075 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:18:37 PM Ignore nyyankees2 Report Abuse How much more will this add to the price of a new car?
aldog365 All-Star Author Nashville Posts:853 Points:1,107,525 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:14:58 PM Ignore aldog365 Report Abuse We didnt have this problem til we went to (drive by wire).When we had cables,throttle bodies,and sensors and a ign keys,we had control.Now it's all wiring.To many possibilitys for outside electrical interferance.real time sucks.GM has done this with ONSTAR.It can be tracked by satelite.One day,you'll be monitored by law inforcement and they will just mail your speeding ticket to you.Or if your engine light comes on,you'll get a card in the mail to get it fixed in 30 days.
BWD Champion Author Charleston Posts:2,222 Points:1,580,235 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:14:09 PM Ignore BWD Report Abuse Nothing new.
Rtho_sc Rookie Author South Carolina Posts:1 Points:395 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:12:25 PM Ignore Rtho_sc Report Abuse Ok Put these devices on Rentals, maybe leases. But NOT on POV. Maybe mom and dad want it for the kids car. But are we going to just let the police sit in their office and write out tickets? we have enough cameras on the street doing that now.
BurntOrange Champion Author Austin Posts:2,300 Points:579,215 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:12:08 PM Ignore BurntOrange Report Abuse Just make talking on the cell phone while driving a capital offense. That will cut way back on accidents.
Dancin Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,124 Points:1,753,280 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:09:17 PM Ignore Dancin Report Abuse Looks like another bureaucracy in the making. Who is going to pay for it ? Will it generate sufficient savings to pay for itself. ?
BburgCW Veteran Author Virginia Posts:325 Points:317,740 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:08:25 PM Ignore BburgCW Report Abuse Hmmm... Lots of paranoid people around here.
gp7 Rookie Author Massachusetts Posts:57 Points:126,065 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:04:35 PM Ignore gp7 Report Abuse More big brother....
jes Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:11,285 Points:2,361,460 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:02:52 PM Ignore jes Report Abuse Not interested. Doesn't matter though. I'm sure we'll get this crammed down our throats whether we want it or not.
Kato51 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,651 Points:1,238,385 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 4:02:20 PM Ignore Kato51 Report Abuse Looks like we have DNA on our cars with this monitoring.
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,621 Points:817,200 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:51:25 PM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse These systems can also monitor driving habits - day, time, speed, hard stops, etc. If your habits are good, it can result in lower insurance rates, if your insurer has such a program.
rippertoo All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:608 Points:130,235 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:50:20 PM Ignore rippertoo Report Abuse I Totally agree with Rajah!!!!
1Casey Champion Author Albany Posts:1,946 Points:961,400 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:49:44 PM Ignore 1Casey Report Abuse They have been doing this for years with big trucks and buses,
Rajah Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,553 Points:1,479,365 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:48:42 PM Ignore Rajah Report Abuse No thank you. There's enough loss of privacy without "Big Brother" hiding in my car.
RobRD Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,828 Points:896,020 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:41:12 PM Ignore RobRD Report Abuse Big brother is watching you.
esquared Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,788 Points:1,113,400 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:39:31 PM Ignore esquared Report Abuse "“analyze-my-drive” application for your smart phone"?? Just one more ap for drivers to check out while cruising along at 70+mph....
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:1,800 Points:585,870 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:38:43 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse Ask toyota
suzyq2007 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,614 Points:740,600 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:33:13 PM Ignore suzyq2007 Report Abuse I am sure they will take care of this
2granny Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,034 Points:449,425 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:32:34 PM Ignore 2granny Report Abuse Very interesting.
katmandue Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,964 Points:1,135,080 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:31:05 PM Ignore katmandue Report Abuse and money but it woun't.
Bubba44612 Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,471 Points:878,350 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:29:14 PM Ignore Bubba44612 Report Abuse I'm sure GM would love to know what data Toyota collects and how they do it.
snofog All-Star Author Seattle Posts:623 Points:92,655 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:27:29 PM Ignore snofog Report Abuse Amazing.
arnerator Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,047 Points:618,060 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:26:13 PM Ignore arnerator Report Abuse They have to get access to the Toyota black boxes on the cars that malfunctioned.
TRAIN RIDER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:4,091 Points:1,759,665 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:25:19 PM Ignore TRAIN RIDER Report Abuse IF THAT WAS ALL IT WAS USED FOR THAT WOULD BE GOOD. BUT THE INFORMATION CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU.
Rt118E Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,581 Points:360,640 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:21:14 PM Ignore Rt118E Report Abuse Safety is number one!
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,517 Points:1,008,260 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:20:22 PM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse Big brother is watching. They can't just watch the idiots so they'll have to watch us all.
sailormon Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,866 Points:460,790 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:14:22 PM Ignore sailormon Report Abuse "As regards people who are afraid of what would be collected: Don't break the law. If you are obeying the law, you should have nothing to worry about." WonderfulMI, this is exactly the type of thinking that has led to many atrocities in our world! Look up the Nuremberg Laws, it just might open your naive eyes.
stevekr All-Star Author Sacramento Posts:649 Points:303,160 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:14:13 PM Ignore stevekr Report Abuse No Govt or Insurance Cos should have such oversight over our privacy!
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:1,331 Points:151,705 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:12:08 PM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse You bet. What the country really needs is more ways for the government to keep track of you - and don't think they won't use their "black boxes" to do so - going too fast? Expect a ticket in the mail.
julius1st4 Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,662 Points:799,190 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:09:30 PM Ignore julius1st4 Report Abuse Give me a break.
Meghan2010 Rookie Author Columbia Posts:23 Points:5,095 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:09:09 PM Ignore Meghan2010 Report Abuse i agree with the author that it would be a good idea just because they might see problems a lot sooner and be able to make recalls sooner before people got hurt!
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:7,178 Points:1,487,440 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:09:05 PM Ignore lpj Report Abuse we have too much data collected now !!!
tc316 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,858 Points:748,885 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:08:03 PM Ignore tc316 Report Abuse I don't think so
sjl08203 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,914 Points:940,565 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:05:33 PM Ignore sjl08203 Report Abuse Sounds like a plan
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,635 Points:771,775 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 3:00:12 PM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse This would be great news, and would benefit all of us. As regards people who are afraid of what would be collected: Don't break the law. If you are obeying the law, you should have nothing to worry about. There would be far too much data for anyone to sift through to find the little things that you do every day. The only worthwhile efforts would be focused on data related to problem - accidents and malfunctions. Nobody really cares if you drive to the store. Nobody cares haw you drive, as long as you do not endanger anyone. Nobody really care what you are doing. You just are not that important. Sorry to "burst your bubble", but if you are not a major lawbreaker or involved in loss of life or property, we just don't care what you do.
Buck_on_Bass Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,609 Points:563,715 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 2:51:26 PM Ignore Buck_on_Bass Report Abuse Data without thoughtful, meaningful analysis may be worse than no data. Sometime associations are made that are not related in the manner presented.
mreiff Champion Author Louisville Posts:1,484 Points:332,300 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 2:36:40 PM Ignore mreiff Report Abuse The danger, or concern, here is WHO gets the data. Insurance companies are already offering potential discounts to those who will let them monitor their driving. If it is at the discretion of the vehicle owner, great. If not, then I don't want just anybody getting the data without my consent.
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,634 Points:429,075 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 2:36:18 PM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse Big brother and go f--- himself and I would never have a GPS as it is just another way for them to know more then they need to.
pgriff1 Champion Author New Orleans Posts:3,981 Points:1,200,890 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 2:31:15 PM Ignore pgriff1 Report Abuse self-incrimination