VetteBlue

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:22:30 AM
How many really believe that.
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twiper1

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:22:12 AM
"Government motors"
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Tundralimited2009

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:20:36 AM
The lawyers will find a way
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rocket_ron

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:19:17 AM
Good
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goldilox88

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:18:16 AM
Every month I hear the same story.
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goalie1950

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:18:10 AM
It's about time that someone steps up to plate and addresses the issue of executive pay in the auto industry. The area of compensation & bonuses in all Fortune 500 companies is "out of control" and requires a much needed makeover that puts reasonabe restrictions in place. There is no one in a publicly held company, no matter what their skill level or contribution to the company, that should be compensated at the current exorbitant levels.
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CPayZombie

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:14:45 AM
Now, if this route would only be taken for the House, Senate and Presidential offices.
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armstrmb

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:13:14 AM
Rather than czar (which takes the title from the former monarchy in Russia), the term should be Commisar (taken from communist Russia) since Obama is working hard to make us into a communist nation. His current healthcare initiative will take from the rich to give to the poor.
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:12:07 AM
US pay czar, great, how about the open the board czars too. and energy czar without experience in any but green. Yes cut their salary, who worth 1/2 million a year. give us break. 99.9% of the population would jump for the job.
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no_monkey2002

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:12:03 AM
is impeachment ready
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:11:51 AM
All companies should be private or stock holder owned, not government owned.
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arnerator

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:11:07 AM
I agree with Diesel Ram...they will figure a way around the cap.
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Glock27

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Spokane
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:08:57 AM
Why are people so worried about the pay of individuals who work for or run private industries? Oh, wait, Obama is trying to Nationalize the auto industry with the help of unions, and GM was the company who was suckered in the most. What about the pay of feceral government works which has gone up since the recession? More government workers make over 100K now than ever before. Where does the money come from to pay a government worker? Our Tax Dollars! It's no wonder the deficit is so much higher now that ever before.
Praise Obama, the mighty one, Praise the Hope and Change. I hope all those who voted for him have been happy with his attacks on Our Nation!
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pliskin

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:08:53 AM
PAY CZAR! SOCIALIST NATION! Look at what they're going to do to us if we don't BUY health care. There going to fine (tax) us at a rate of 2% of our annual income to be collected by the IRS. To do this they are hiring 16,500 new agents at a cost of $10 billion. How's that Hope and Change thing looking for you now? And by this time Sunday it'll all be over. Hopefully everyone will remember this on November 2nd and VOTE! Maybe we change it back.
Thanks to SUPERQUACK AND Pede....Pliskin
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SUPERQUACK

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:05:55 AM
YES, UMASS .... LETS VOTE OUT "ALL" INCUMBENTS ..... DEMS AND REPUBLICANS ....
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DABEE1073

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:05:13 AM
WHEN IS WASHINGTON GOING TO GET RID OF THE CZARS? ALL OF THEM.
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Diesel_Ram

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:04:48 AM
Good but, they will find a way around it. Private sector people are way smarter then government employees, at any level.
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BWD

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Charleston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:04:06 AM
It's about time.
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UMassLowell

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:03:43 AM
I believe "all" Politicians in DC should forfeit their pay until they can follow the Constitution.
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SUPERQUACK

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:59:58 AM
YES, METROMAN ..... OUR COUNTRY IS CRUMBLING WITHOUT ANY TERRORIST ATTACKS SINCE WE HAVE IDIOTS LIKE OBAMA, PELOSI,REID, FRANK AND OTHER SOCIALISTS RUINING EVERYTHING FOREVER...... YOU STAY HERE .... I AM PLANNING TO MOVE OUT WHILE I AM STILL ABLE .....
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Pede

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:59:14 AM
I do not know what it is about the word czar but what is this country coming to when we have to use an un-american word to describe a job.
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mfeldstein

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:58:16 AM
Ok, but what about the bonuses which can make base salaries look like pocket change?
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grandmacbc

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:57:02 AM
Who is looking at the pay of the Czars? They weren't even elected and have increased the roles of government employees.
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mazdaboy

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:56:08 AM
The dollar has been going up too.
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Texrider49

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:55:23 AM
i would rather buy a GM vehicle than a toyota
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:53:26 AM
If we had let GM and Chrysler go under, and the banks and AIG and the rest -- the USA would now be like Greece. Take a look at where they are and ask yourself if you want to live like that. Thanks to Obama and his crew the economy is getting better, and the gasoline prices are going up along with the economy.
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baitmn

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:52:57 AM
These czar are a joke by themself, it must be from our ole GUBMUNT guys
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mmene

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:52:29 AM
That sounds pretty rough, I don't know how they will make ends meet with a base salary of only $500,000 per year. Enjoy our taxpayer dollars will ya.
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bluenvoy

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:52:17 AM
The Pay Czar is a COMMUNIST!
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:46:17 AM
If the stockholders would pay attention to their business these guys wouldn't have been bleeding GM white all these years. The ones who really got screwed were retired stockholders and their retirement accounts.
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Metroman

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:45:25 AM
You know I'm getting tired of hearing about Government Motors and how buying a GM Vehicle only encourages the Idiot in the White House! If I remember right, he is our President and has done a hell of lot more in a little over a year, and certainly more the one before him did in eight years unless you count lying to us to get in a war in the wrong country!
[Edited by: Metroman at 3/20/2010 10:45:50 AM EST]
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:43:27 AM
bumpygas, I fully agree with you.
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gabbygusIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:39:42 AM
Good point mooneyman! After all he owns Government Motors!
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njerald

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:38:15 AM
GM is all ready bankrupt again when you throw GMAC back in where it is supposed to be. They are selling cars on credit and have the taxpayers pay for the financing.
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mooneyman

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:37:19 AM
Don't buy a gm vehicle. It only encourages the idiot in the white house
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EXTREMESNOW

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Medford
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:37:11 AM
Maybe the government should also cut their pay instead of giving themselves a raise. They should have to pay into social security and use the same health care they are wanting to feed to the American public then maybe they could actually fix the problems.
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davmoo

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:36:16 AM
If the execs don't like it, they have an easy way to prevent it in the future...pay back the billions they received in the current bailout, and don't ask the taxpayers to bail them out again. If you want taxpayer help, then you accept taxpayer control.
I'll bet money that those of you squawking here about how the government should not be controlling GM would have been the same people squawking just as loud if the government let GM sink. And I'll also remind a bunch of you that it was your idol King George the Second that first got the ball rolling on bailing out GM and Chrysler. So while you're pointing those fingers at Obama, be sure and point a few at Bush too.
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bumpygas

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:36:02 AM
That's what happens when Obama takes over in General Motors. Can we only guess what will happen with Health Care?
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Maintroll

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:34:51 AM
A vast majority unemployed and worrying about how they are going to feed their families and these bums getting atrosious salaries like this. No, it should not be so and they should be cut.
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katiejayWV

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:34:13 AM
The best people will leave GM.
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murdershewrote

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:31:59 AM
they deserve it..the cut that is
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TommyTraveler

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:31:33 AM
Capitalism is dying.
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tml721

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:28:56 AM
IF Gov cuts the pay of 1, it'll cut anyones pay. If you think it won't happen, just sit back, do nothing, and NEVER say you weren't told so when it finally happens to YOU.
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Bhmf4

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:28:48 AM
How about cutting the pay of Federal Government executives who make over 500k per year? How about cutting the number of czars in the White House? What a crock.
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Ticoman54

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Miami
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:28:19 AM
Good point jb107 and one that many of us are missing. While it is to be argued the extraordinary salaries that certain top executives have received in the past, having the U.S. government decide your salary is NOT the American free market enterprise way.
Having the government decide your salary has been done in places like China, Cuba and Russia. And what do these countries have in common? You decide.
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I10Express

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:28:14 AM
Since the pay gap between senior executives and everyone else became so great in the past decade, I think this is a good move. What are these top executives doing that justifies salaries 10 times what the managers under them get and on down the line. Taking a company to bankruptcy normally results in firing and not a big fat paycheck.
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Somis1

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:27:47 AM
I like the numbers in principal, but I hope someone takes the government to court over this. Where does the constitution mention determining industrial pay?
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Hazelnut

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:27:40 AM
All that was added to the price tag of the vehicle we buy. No wonder they are all starting at above $20k to fatten their wallets.
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tazdriver

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:26:37 AM
So much for free enterprise
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Bill100

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:26:00 AM
I fear the term "base cash salary" leaves open the possibility of other forms of compensation, including cash compensation. And what constitutes proving "a good reason for the higher pay"? I have seen many flimsy reasons many, many times before.
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braves89

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:25:39 AM
Osama is being cheap
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