FlyNFool

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:10:44 AM
There's too much consumin goin on!
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SpruceGuse2

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:09:37 AM
Tell that to the 15% unemployed still in Michigan......................
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sleepyt

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:07:48 AM
cincidap has some nice analysis below.
It does appear there is a range of economic activity bound by our dependence on energy, and how that dependence changes other spending behavior.
We may be locked into this economy for some time.
So CONSERVATION is a way to change the dynamics.
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mickealo

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Spokane
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:07:39 AM
i don't believe this one as prices go up even when demand is down it has more to do with speculators and gov.
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captngasTN

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:06:15 AM
Retail sales does not gas pricing make.
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:02:28 AM
If demand goes up, price will go up. What does that tell me? Conserve, America! OPEC is sticking it to you, right? So stick it back to them by making it a point of spending less on gas!
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ILVET

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:02:20 AM
Everyone should understand by now that gas is going to go up no matter what we do. Speculators are going to drive it up as they will always find an excuse to do so and NO ONE lifts a finger to stop them. If we use less then the refiners will drive it up by producing less. You might as well get use to this fact!
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bills55

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:01:02 AM
I say it.s speculators and a failing dollar.
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turbosaab

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:00:58 AM
I don't agree at all. I don't believe there is any sign that the economy is recovering. Every day the number of unemployed increases. How can that be construed as recovery?
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bad_sailor

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London
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:00:36 AM
It doesn't matter how much we conserve, greed and speculation are the driving factors for pricing.
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MUSTANGSRUS

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:59:09 AM
Rising gas prices will choke off any fast recovery. What a lousy excuse for raising prices.
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bell05

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:57:18 AM
CV; I agree with the you.
But most of the general public has their head in the sand. Look at who got elected!!
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KillChain

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:55:22 AM
I thought the Libs and Dems were going to go after big oil....not now when they get the money now.
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dlr17

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:54:31 AM
Big profits$ for Big Oil and Big Bank$ with the high prices and all the fee$. We won't see an end to the recession any time soon with this pattern.
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TheSnowstorm

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:54:23 AM
More data manipulation. Statistics is a wonderful tool.
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DieselKat

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:54:20 AM
No surprise in this.
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cv

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:54:07 AM
Use whatever means to conserve fuel because any excuse to raise gas prices will the plan for the speculators forever.
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mk9999

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:53:45 AM
We need smaller more fuel efficient cars.
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BartBuzz

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:53:22 AM
The economy may be on the mend but unemployment is still around 10%. Consumer spending is only up a fraction of a percent based on the latest data. The Government is the only consumer who thinks they can spend its way to recovery. Instead they are spending us into bankruptcy.
Keep conserving.
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HankHill09

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:53:21 AM
Just because the economy may be on the mend, that doesn't mean that gas prices should go up. Maybe the reason why the economy is on the mend is because it doesn't cost us an arm and a leg to drive around town !!!!!
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woodeye55

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Gary
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:50:38 AM
...play you pay...
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Tonester1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:50:26 AM
Please keep conserving.
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nurdco

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:50:24 AM
MINORITY not majority
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cincidap

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:50:16 AM
thecomposer has the right idea. This country (perhaps continent) has entered a vicious cycle wherein the inflationary pressures of energy prices are so awful that it would almost make one root for a deflationary depression. Any economic improvement dooms itself due to the resulting energy costs, whereas any purge is self-limiting because the sudden drop in energy cost brings back demand.
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cableman31

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:49:36 AM
The only thing that sets gas prices in this country is "OIL COMPANY GREED" and they have plenty of that.
And RochBear remember in your EV you can only go about 25 miles so you still have enough power to get back home and then charge it for 8 to 12 hours. That to me is NOT going where I want when I want.
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Hewy67

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:48:55 AM
Just another excuse
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rsm315

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:48:19 AM
Its not us its the speculators!
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JunGleJimBo

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:45:58 AM
Plan your trips to the store, and what to buy. Hit multiple stores on the same circuit. Take a cooler with an ice block to keep perishables cold. Should cut down on fuel consumption.
JimBo
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TommyTraveler

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:45:52 AM
Combine your trips. Plan your trip and then work your trip plan. If we all could cut 5% of our gas usage big oil would not be able to have anywhere to store the oil.
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BeaverBilly

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:45:37 AM
It is a connection to our spending habits.
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johnwinger

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:44:03 AM
Now it's our fault?
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adr47

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Saskatchewan
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:43:36 AM
Reason to get off oil and onto alternatives
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salog

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:43:17 AM
If that was true then price would be set be demand.
What is really happening is that it is a big conspiracy. We are buying more gas this month. Speculators think demand is increasing, so they increase the price of oil. Then next month we cut back our driving. Now speculators are left with all this expensive oil that no one is using. So they have to sell at a lost.
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throttle

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:43:12 AM
Unfortunately true.
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theawesome1

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:42:45 AM
A tank of gas ( 15 gals) is not excessive filled once a month or less.
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RochBear

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:42:12 AM
This is one of the many reasons I want an EV, which I can charge with my wind/solar array. That way I can go where and when I want, and not effect the price of gas.
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riverrising

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:41:18 AM
lucky for me,we have no malls,clothes shops in town. very few places to spend money. keep our money,spend less. no where to go. who ever wrote up article is in their own WORLD.
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:39:22 AM
We can only controlour use. We cannot control the rest of the worlds intake. If we stop relying on it, then we won't care (as much) what the price of it is.
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INDY51

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:39:20 AM
there is much more than supply and demand that set gas prices.
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granma3xnow

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:38:24 AM
I'm not driving MORE, I'm driving LESS. So is almost everyone I know.
It does not stop them from RAISING the pump price.
I do have a theory: Oh, we're not selling enough, lets start to raise price so they'll all come in and fill up, cause they think its gonna go higher.
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WonderfulMI

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:38:05 AM
If you pay the price, you have established the price.
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jazzej

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:37:49 AM
But an earlier article said our use was still way below normal, but that was having little or no effect because China's use was so high. Bottom line, we pay more no matter what.
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Ticoman54

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Miami
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:35:35 AM
Even though weak demand has had little affect on prices for the past 15 months, conservation is still important. Sooner or later, the bubble will burst if we continue to keep demand weak.
Tip: Try to take advantage of your trips and run several errands on the same trip to conserve. If we ALL do this, it will change the fabric of our demand.
I think this article is nothing but BS. Prices have not been affected by weak demand for the past 15 months so why all of sudden should they be impacted if demand increases slightly?
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thecomposer

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:33:36 AM
LOOK AT THIS>
Spinning a recovering economy for AN EXCUSE TO RAISE GAS PRICES!!!!
Theis Evil F*** Tards will stop at NOTHING to pocket more money from themselves.Hell is very Fiery.
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wizzard1222

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:33:14 AM
It's not the consuming "Americans"...IT'S the hedge funds & investment bankers...rough trading !!!!
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Bubba44612

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:33:02 AM
As always big oil just screws us since we are using less and driving less they will make it up in other ways.
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FocusGuy

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:32:40 AM
old article but some people need to be told every day.
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hwmillerster

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:30:18 AM
As alway, supply and demand rule the gasoline market.
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:29:56 AM
Democrats have turned the economy around, so it is their fault the gas prices are high.
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fcdriver

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:29:48 AM
and a majority of them just cant figure that out
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goalie1950

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:28:58 AM
The reality of the matter, the oil companies set & established gas prices based on what they perceive as projected inventories versus consumption. But the actual driving force in gas pricing is a element called: GREED
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