oldiesman

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:51:56 AM
Lets see if it is not all hot air.
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gasper

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:48:14 AM
I find that these huge tower are not very attractive driving by. I hate to say this but nuclear energy away from populated areas is the best in my opinion.
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Greg6901

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:47:50 AM
It needs to be sustainable.
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Mr.Dirt

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Albany
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:47:25 AM
what we need is the wind turbines to be built in this country not china
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ifallsguy

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:46:16 AM
check out Honeywell since they just developed a home wind turbine system for under $5k which will produce power in a 2mph breeze
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THEDodgeman

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:45:34 AM
go wind.......get blown away
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nedthenanite

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:45:15 AM
Because in China they still have vast swaths of farmland that the authoritarian government has no trouble razing to put up windmills. Whereas here, there's people who fight them at every turn because we can't just up and make people leave when we wanna install a farm.
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mreiff

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:43:00 AM
I wish I could have a wind turbine on my house!
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epf

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:40:44 AM
I'm encouraged by this for America, I hope we find the courage to make the transformation.
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Long_gone

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:37:38 AM
If the government is subsidizing, ultimately the government controls it.
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zippy452

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:36:32 AM
How much electricity could the Democrats and the News media produce this weekend talking about the Health Reform Legislation pending in the House this weekend?
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Skipper52

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:36:07 AM
It's up to private industry to put them up. We don't need more government.
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CptnCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:33:31 AM
They should put 1000's of wind generators around Washington Dc ( and Ottawa Canada) we would then have a surplus of power
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:33:25 AM
I'm with fedex09, sounds great till gets to gov't subsidized...I guess wind isn't subsidized enough compared to others - but still better than subsidizing corn-E. Of course China is big gov't who even subsidized gasoline (maybe still does).
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Pucked

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:33:21 AM
All sources are good.
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biza4u

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:32:35 AM
More wind power
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Cuzilla

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:32:20 AM
Not in my back yard! You can keep your bird-killing lightning-magnet eye-sore whirligigs out of my environment! This article is nothing more than a puff piece for the evil giant wind corporations and their running dog lackys!
Hey, we can play a page from the Eco-Nazi's playbook too!!!
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DieselKat

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:32:05 AM
No one is saying how profitable it is.
If it has to be Government-Subsidized, it's not.
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DrLyon

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:30:15 AM
Alternative power is a great way to save form oil and natural gas needs.
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fedex09

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:29:43 AM
The words I dislike to hear are "government subsidized" If a product cant stand on it's own then it should be developed more until it can stand on its own.
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janctx

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Lubbock
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:28:44 AM
now we have to have policies in place?????
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impala2008

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:27:42 AM
Very little to do with gas pricing.
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thirstyauto

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:24:20 AM
Okay, so are we going to have wind powered cars now??
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GoBlazers

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:22:51 AM
Flick to remote and let the body glide.
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Tundralimited2009

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:22:40 AM
"With the right policies in place", ??????????
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dbatw

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:22:15 AM
I hate that phrase concerning the United States: "still lags far behind that in China". Come on, wake up America. We can dominate this field and get off the fossil fuel highway to hell.
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Zakmeister

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:21:43 AM
To become less dependant on other countries we need to go ahead with ALL forms of energy.
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Tnerbeel

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:21:40 AM
Once was the day the USA would lead the rest of the world, both in technology as well manufacturing. We've been left behind in technology and ran the manufacturing across the borders.
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VetteBlue

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:21:21 AM
I hope it works out. I'm not convinced yet. Too expensive to build and to inconsistent to produce electricity.
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twiper1

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:20:37 AM
This is the big downfall of the U.S. We insure all people of the world has the latest technology while we do nothing for ourselves. The we get ridiculed for it, and caled a bad country.
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JB1881

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New Mexico
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:20:33 AM
I hate looking at windmills! Let's go NUCLEAR!
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goldilox88

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:17:48 AM
Looking forward to the day that we have alternative energy sources from which to choose.
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jessek

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:17:25 AM
All the folks who are complaining about "ugly" windmills, did you also complain about the "ugly" cellphone towers? Or did we adapt?
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MahopacJack

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:17:02 AM
Most of the Wind Turbine parts are built OVERSEAS. Again, we spending TAXPAYER FUNDS to BENEFIT OTHER NATIONS!!!
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rocket_ron

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:15:59 AM
I bet our per capita rate is faster.... It is like saying Podunk is way behind California in wind turbine installations
[Edited by: rocket_ron at 3/20/2010 11:17:38 AM EST]
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no_monkey2002

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:13:15 AM
we need to hardness the hot air that is blowing around washington and we will have all the electric we need for years
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grandmacbc

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:11:45 AM
The American worker is getting too lazy. They just want to be the managers. What happened to 8hrs of work for 8 hrs. of pay????
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goalie1950

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:11:22 AM
Not sure that this alternative energy source will ever succeed in the US because of the growing objection of residents that have the turbine farms located in their neighborhoods and complain about the noise generated by these turbines.
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jessek

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:10:30 AM
Pretty much like everything else we do...a day late and a dollar short. Then we play catch-up.
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:09:37 AM
These items shoould be built in the USA.
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:09:20 AM
If I put in a wind turbine do I get Carbon credits to sell and what would 10kw be worth in carbon credits. not much i suspect.
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arnerator

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:08:46 AM
Besides everything else, this would get a lot of people working again.
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SUVFan

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:07:54 AM
>They should use all available sources of energy and lately there has been a lot of hot air in Washington D C. <
Pede, nothing new there, though the volume seems to be increasing. Maybe telepromters could have a windmill attachment and some good might flow . . . .
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JediKnight

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:04:27 AM
9C1,
Yes you'll want "alternative" power sources available (they don't need to be conventional) when the Wind Generation is "offline". Yes, just like with Solar (which one could say is more reliable) you'll want to factor in use of "constant" power sources as required.
The cool thing is that those "constant" power Sources may not need to be running at 100% as often... which means any pollutants it may generate won't be as much... had Wind/Solar not been part of the equation.
It isn't part of today's "One Plant" model... where power is centralized... but there is some positives to decentralize power generation. You can have "Central" then have plenty of smaller generators (conventional or otherwise) in local areas... The footprint might be much smaller in that "Central" will allows be providing power... but most of it will be local... and power usually wasted by "Central" just to transmit and be ready for that "peak" need at any moment will save plenty of costs.
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BWD

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Charleston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:03:22 AM
Lets pick it up!
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Diesel_Ram

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:03:05 AM
UMassLowell - That would probably have the same power output as the Hover Dam
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UMassLowell

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:02:04 AM
Its a shame we cannot harness the wind from the blowhards in DC
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pliskin

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:00:27 AM
The initial cost would seem to be the major drawback for most homeowners that I know. From there on it would take care of itself until it was time for the maintenance which is said can be costly if anything major were needing replacement.
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kriketgirl

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 11:00:10 AM
Every little bit helps. Michigan is working toward getting more wind power.
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KodiakAlpha

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:59:40 AM
Imagine the environmental impact if we actually dedicated enough land to supply a significant percentage of our electricity from wind. For that matter, I wonder if taking that much energy out of the air might cause greater changes to our weather patterns than whatever might be caused by CO2 emissions.
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majorfall

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:59:30 AM
we need to REMOVE subsidies on mature power generation like fossil and nuclear and alternative would be able to stand on its own..
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Texrider49

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:59:07 AM
there is a business in CT that installed a wind turbine to generate 1/3 of his power may if that does well he will install a second one to take over more of his power needs.
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