foxups

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:20:25 AM
let the good times roll and gas up too
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baitmn

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:20:18 AM
This is bull, IT is the GREED of the Sand People along with the GREED of the Oil Speculator trying to control the market prices, that are pushing the pump prices upward. I hope they all loose their A.. off in the market.
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DVGas

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:18:58 AM
OH...Now they are blaming all of us for the gas price increases! Nice!
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cdanielwyke

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:18:04 AM
even though our "demand" may be "rising" it still isn't high enough to justify the price of gas we are seeing. simple fact is though, the higher the price goes, the more stifled our economy will be. especially since our economy is currently consumer based.
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Road-Runner

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:17:26 AM
Baloney! The reason is cartel pricing (in large part thanks to the EPA) and almost total lack of real competition.
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TopGunn

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:16:53 AM
Yesterdays stale 'article' - and only a point if view, not a fact.
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GasholeMI

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:15:15 AM
Regarding the words "...that the economy is on the mend,..." I will wait to see on that. I see very few signs that it is actually true.
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braves89

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:15:10 AM
damn specualtors
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VDubBill

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:15:01 AM
" ... and while Americans may be buying more food ... ." Were Americans starving during the last year? Not that I see from here.
What irks me is buying the nearly lowest priced gas in town and someone else is buying gas at 15 cents or more a gallon just a mile or two away. It looks like they are setting the prices because they settle for buying gas at a higher price.
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Bou

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Maine
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:14:30 AM
I haven't noticed a big change in the amount of shopping being done, but that said with increasing gas prices towards $3.00, shopping will come down. unemployment still around 10%.
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njerald

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:14:11 AM
DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tnerbeel

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:14:00 AM
What a profound headline. Sounds almost like a 'Yogi' [Berra].
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pbc2001

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:13:40 AM
Who knows what tomorrow will bring.
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donny47

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:11:16 AM
supply and demand.
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Joeski1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:08:39 AM
that way... gas will go down for all of us!!!
NOT!
Got Hybrid?
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Joeski1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:08:03 AM
so if I have 3 bucks...
and choose not to spend it on a gallon of gas..
but instead by a gallon of milk...
will gas go down and milk go up?
so everyone should go buy milk and forget the gas!!!
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Bhmf4

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:06:51 AM
Yes, oil companies raise prices when they can and lower them when they must. We do the same thing with our wages and salaries, with the exception of government workers. This is good for our economy. When prices are going up, then investors are looking for more supply, when prices are down, we like it but the exploration for new supply goes down. As long as the market can rule and not government or monopoly interests, then we all win.
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Agabel

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:06:20 AM
the refineries are not even running at full capacity so how can this cause prices to go up?
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ndhoanggia

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:04:36 AM
It's greed!
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cloud23465

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:04:08 AM
This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read! It's our fault?! yeah! NO... it's not the greedy oil companies (OPEC) cutting supplys and speculators either... it all us...
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wiwhite87

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:02:30 AM
Changed behavior en masse will produce new results.
The easiest way to induce change in the market is to pull out your money.
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:02:13 AM
Just because people ar going to shopping centers more is not a valid reason to raise gas prices. As some of the previous posters stated more people are shopping on line.
The oil people raise prices because they can.
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rbrowdersr

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:01:21 AM
A deversion to cloud the issues.
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Hazelnut

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:56:17 AM
They didn't mention the online shoppers which didn't use any gasoline for the trip to the mall. Except for delivery vehicles ...
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thepi

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:55:27 AM
Blah, blah, blah....we have one month where retail sales are up a small amount, and gas prices are "ok" to go up. All BS. Maybe, if the politicians listened to the people instead of the lobbyist...oh heck, preaching to the choir, right?
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Doubleeez

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:55:00 AM
Could it be that there were more trips to the stores and malls because of the severe winter weather which required purchases that were not expected?
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I10Express

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:54:22 AM
When the speculators drive the price of oil up and the pump price jumps the next day that is just plain greed. The oil was not refined and gas shipped to the pump that fast.
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mmene

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:53:12 AM
Yes, consumer demand obviously must play a key role in the price of gas just like anything else. And frankly, the best way to cut that demand is increasing adoption of mass transit. Not that it is the right solution for every person in every circumstance. But it definitely can be a lot more widely used that it is today. It is the one technology that is completely ready, completely available and can cut fuel/transportation costs massively. All it takes is sustained political will.
[Edited by: mmene at 3/13/2010 10:55:01 AM EST]
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pgerassi

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:51:37 AM
My demand is down from this time last year.
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ifallsguy

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:51:36 AM
what goes down, must go up
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Robert44

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:50:56 AM
Up and Down, Up and Down, so on ...
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vegaland

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:50:11 AM
Same as yesterday.
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DrLyon

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:47:33 AM
A lot of the increase is "seasonal" demand.
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MacDad614

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:40:33 AM
So to lower gas costs we should sit at home and buy nothing except that little bit of gas to get to/from work and the store where we buy our groceries? I for one do not believe everyone is traveling more and shopping more. A mall near us has had about half of the stores in it close - they are gone.
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sivart

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:39:27 AM
If we are driving more, then tell me why the demand is down!!!
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:38:42 AM
As much as it stinks to hear, sometimes rising gasoline prices are partially our own fault. The fact that Americans are beginning to spend more shows that the economy is on the mend, and while Americans may be buying more food or clothes, they're also making more trips to the store, the mall, etc. The one product letting them get there is gasoline. We can directly tie increased shopping purchases and retail sales increases to gasoline demand. The more people are purchasing, the more gasoline they're undoubtedly using to get to stores or to the mall.
And if the price of gasoline goes up, they will also stop buying so lets keep the price of gas down.. High gas prices will also kill any recession recovery..
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close2broke

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:37:41 AM
It's all our fault. Yeah right, who wrote this article, Obama?
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tazdriver

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:37:08 AM
Higher gas prices are an indication that oil companies are collecting future profits. We need low prices for 2 or 3 years with no profit to bring the market back to life. The oil companies have already collected profits for years into the future.
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gasper

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:36:06 AM
This statement is an insult to all of us we are the problem? I think not if we slow down the use of fuel the economy will not grow people will stay home and people will lose jobs. I think that this article is an insult to the people who keep the economy going by vacation and spending money at restaurants hotels amusement parks etc. and the list goes on this person who wrote this is not looking at the big picture.
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ironbox_sara

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Albany
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:35:54 AM
All BS. But that's what we've come to expect.
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NatureBoyKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:35:14 AM
This is true BECAUSE the price of fuel is now more closely tied to comodities trading than to actual supply and demand. Thank you George!
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TeachR06

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:31:42 AM
Right....it's the consumers fault if it goes down or up even if the economy is the same.
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eddyp94

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:31:02 AM
I don't believe what they say....
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Skipper52

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:30:44 AM
It's all tied together and you can't do one without the other unless you bye online. But then there are more delivery trunks on the road.
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vizilo

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:30:24 AM
Sounds like higher gas prices may signal a mending economy and more jobs. I don't mind paying more for that
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mckellyb

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:28:42 AM
There was an upside to $4+/gallon fuel.
People paid attention much, much more to driving. The looked ahead, and didn't have a foot pedal in use 100% of the time.
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Goatroper

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:28:35 AM
But gasoline consumption is still down....so why blame the shoppers? Don't confuse my buying groceries with the increase in the price of fuel.
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mackconsult

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:24:15 AM
I think people combine trips more now ....
[Edited by: mackconsult at 3/13/2010 10:24:26 AM EST]
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DocWyeth

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:22:16 AM
Drive slower.
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w4kh

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:20:28 AM
This is simply reporting the basics of Econ 101 - as demand increases against a relatively fixed supply, the price will rise... we are seeing people spend more, which means a few more jobs, which means even more spending, and more gasoline usage, which in turn drives up prices. Some people, who assume that speculators in the crude oil futures market are controlling pump prices, do not seem to grasp that there is only a very tenuous link between crude oil futures and pump prices, and that there are two totally different markets at work with very different supply and demand pressures that set prices.
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DABEE1073

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:13:30 AM
THAT IS HARD TO BELIEVE. I SAY BRAVO SIERRA. THE SPECULATORS SET THE PRICES OF CRUDE AND THE OIL COMPANIES SET THE PRICES AT THE PUMP.
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CptnCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:11:33 AM
They will raise the price of fuel again and that will start more job loss and a new recession.
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